Comments on: Ian Dunbar: Dog-friendly dog training

By: Marcuskristicus

Marcuskristicus — Thu, 02 Jul 2009 11:58:12 +0000

One myth Dunbar …
One myth Dunbar likes to debunk is the idea that “dominance” means yelling, screaming and physically punishing the dog.

In fact, getting blue in the face is often seen by the dog as weakness, not strength. True alpha dogs don’t carry on like that. It’s Dunbar’s style of calm, consistent, but decisive leadership that best mimics an alpha dog.

By: rsuebaru

rsuebaru — Thu, 02 Jul 2009 11:58:12 +0000

If you have a …
If you have a client that doesn’t have the time or money to train his dog without using harsh punishment…you need to get a better class of clients. People who can’t commit the time & money to have a dog be a respectable member of society need to be educated, not trained to bully animals.

By: kght222

kght222 — Thu, 02 Jul 2009 11:58:12 +0000

this nature, but i …
this nature, but i can not continue to watch this video based on that huge mis-conception, perhaps he corrects it later in, but he did make it appear that the female was the weaker of the species, while it is quite the opposite, for evolutionary and culturual reasons, only remember that, dogs realy ARE wolves

By: kght222

kght222 — Thu, 02 Jul 2009 11:58:12 +0000

if the girl wolf …
if the girl wolf doesnt want to give the male wolf the bone, all he can do is irritate her, and in wolfs the alpha female would once again just come and WHIP HIS , the fact is that the idea of that lemon juice or the newspaper over the head, while not directly, over time origionated from the NATURE of the wolf clan, i do not belive it is neccicary to use violence to mimic

By: kght222

kght222 — Thu, 02 Jul 2009 11:58:12 +0000

the thing that …
the thing that es me off so much is that he appears to think it odd that an inferior female would be able to beat a superior male of the species, he is simply missing the point of the way dogs brains work, think of a human, how many men do you think would grab food out of a woman’s hand if you didnt know where the next food was coming from, not many, but still quite a few, well in wolf, and general wild culture, they DO NOT OVERCOME INSTINCT……,

By: kght222

kght222 — Thu, 02 Jul 2009 11:58:12 +0000

i cant even finish …
i cant even finish this one, i do agree that it is possible, and actualy quite easy to train a male or female dog without violence, but he starts this whole little bit with a huge mis conception, a full grown dog is just like an adolescent wolf, of cource a gama female can keep a bone away from an alpha male, but in wolf culture an alpha female would beat the out of an alpha male for even trying to take the bone, i’ll continue in a reply

By: jaymillwall

jaymillwall — Thu, 02 Jul 2009 11:58:12 +0000

mans a genius,been …
mans a genius,been to his seminars,loved them.

By: heartdogs

heartdogs — Thu, 02 Jul 2009 11:58:12 +0000

Well for starters, …
Well for starters, I’ve been training a lot longer than you - started with your methods and graduated to more positive approach because it was more effective. There will always be clients who don’t listen, or who don’t have money. But, the umption that positive training and management take longer than corrective training is false. But, when you are 22 and all puffed up because you train pit bulls and dobermans, you can’t see that. All you see is the stupid dominance hype.

By: DoggRazor

DoggRazor — Thu, 02 Jul 2009 11:58:12 +0000

i think that this …
i think that this opinion is a lil up its own . of course u dont have to use force to train a dog whther he is aggressive or not. but when a client has an aggressive dog and wants him to obey and stop being aggressive now and doesnt necessarily have the money or time to train the dog without leash correction, what are you gonna do, tell him to give his dog away? put it down? how about if the dog is always running away in the streets, u wait til he gets hit by a car or react?…………….

By: heartdogs

heartdogs — Thu, 02 Jul 2009 11:58:12 +0000

Actually, the myth …
Actually, the myth is that you must use coercion or force just because you are training an aggressive dog. And, it’s also a myth that you cannot train owners to train their dogs using positive training. The real myth is that there are never any negative consequences for the dog during training. Those consequences do not have to cause pain or fear to be effective.